Have these parents ever heard that faith without works is worth nothing! They should definately be held responsible for her death. What they did (or rather what they didn't do) was cruel to that helpless child. As parents its our rsponsibility to take care of our children, not wait for them to die.

Its amazing how many people in today's world, misintertprete our God, I sometimes wonder if the majority of us really know the God we serve. FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS NOTHING!! PERIOD! God is the one who give us the ability as human beings to be able to practice and heal, he gave doctors their ability, he gave surgeons their ability, all who is talented is talented because of GOD. Hence if we are sick we need to go to a doctor, ,God is the Super working through them(i.e doctors, nurses etc.) the naturals.

Too many times we pray and do nothing, prayer alone wil not help, prayer is the weapon you use as you work! if you need to lose weight pray to stay commited, then exercise and eat well, if you are unemployed, don't just get up every morning and pray for a job, u get up and get on your feet to go look for a job hence if your child is sick for goodness sake take her to the doctor.

I work in the medical field. I get so tired of parents forcing their personal agendas onto their kids. Overreactions to all sorts of medical procedures is more common than not. The parents should definitely be held accountable IMHO. That kid should have had more of a chance.

That's a tough one. In some cases I would pray but allowing a child to have too little insulin and not get medical help is scary. I wouldn't have done that at all! However, it's a hard case. Parents need to make decisions for their children. It is a parental matter but when a doctor explains the details I would hope a parent would make a better choice than this.But we don't always know all the details kwim?

I don't think the government should be in the business of telling people what they can believe in, or how to practice those beliefs. It's fine to say 'hold them responsible' when we don't agree with the beliefs in question.

What if the beliefs in question were ours? Some scoff, and think 'there's nothing harmful about my beliefs'. According to you. What if the government tells you what is acceptable to believe? That's one of the reasons we crossed the pond in the first place.

re 'Heartwants': Part of being a parent is passing on your beliefs, culture, & traditions to your children. I find it somewhat offensive that you consider this 'pushing my agenda on my children'.

Faith without works doesn't mean what it is presumed to mean here in the comment section. It actually means that to have faith without the love, mercy and sacrifice demanded, it is meaningless and empty.

Regardless of that meaning, I do think it's devastating that the parents would choose solely to pray. What a great gift to humans is the field of medicine. I'm reminded of the anecdote where a man is sitting on his roof during a flood. One man comes by in a boat and offers him help. He says God will help him. Another man comes by in a boat and offers help. The man on the roof again says that God will help him. Finally, a chopper comes by and offers to pull the man up to safety. He refuses again, adamantly shouting that God will rescue him. He dies in the rising waters. In heaven he asks why God didn't rescue him and God simply said, I sent two boats and a helicopter.

Prayer is a beautiful thing. But sometimes its necessary to accept the help that is offered. I don't think the parents should necessarily be charged, I don't know what I think, but I do wish the little girl was still alive.

The article is misleading. Diabetic ketoacidosis is NOT a condition which leaves too little insulin in the body. It's a life-threatening RESULT of too little insulin in the body due to Type I (insulin dependent) diabetes. Because there is not enough insulin in the body to remove glucose from the bloodstream to the brain and muscles and cells of the body (glucose is the fuel our body uses to function) it MUST be supplied by insulin injections or death will result. Type I diabetes develops when the pancreas stops making insulin and the symptoms begin to show soon after. Many diabetic children are diagnosed when they present to a hospital because of the symptoms of ketoacidosis.

Ketoacidosis in a diabetic means there is a buildup of glucose in the blood stream. The body is literally starving to death and the brain is not getting the fuel it needs to function. As a parent of a type I diabetic child, I am aware of how the diagnosis comes like lightning out of a clear blue sky - but it is evident that something is very, very wrong with your child - symptoms which cannot be attributed to a virus ("but she never had a fever").

Diabetic ketoacidosis is physically painful and leaves the brain without fuel - so it begins to shut down. The process is easily and quickly treatable with insulin and can be reversed UNLESS it is too late to reverse the effects on the brain. This child was very ill long before she slipped into a coma.

The parents did not hesitate to call 911 when their daughter stopped breathing. Why was it okay then? Why not a day before?

I don't know if these folks should be punished by our legal system. Probably they should be. It seems the worst kind of hubrus to watch your child suffer and slip further and further away and to refuse to seek medical care because you INSIST on leaving it up to God on YOUR terms. God had doctors and nurses and nutrition and insulin waiting for this little girl at the nearest hospital.

Someone should have told them the tale about the man stranded in a ocean. It is a tale about a man who prayed for God to save him. Numerous people came by trying to save the man, but he insisted that God would save him. The man died and when he got to heaven he asked God why hadn't he answered his prayer. God told the man that he sent 3 people to help and the man turned them down. God works through people. Some of us are waiting for God to perform a miracle in our lives or in someone else's life, when God continues to send people to us to help. The doctor were this little girls help.
Faith without work is dead. This means if you have faith the things you do in your life should show that you are a believer. No diffrent than with your husband or wife. If they say they love you then their action should should that. These people should be prayed for because so often the devil confuses us to the real meaning of God's word. This situation is tragic, but let's not pass judgement on this couple. We have all been fool at one time or another in our live. Pray for them and other.

I am just wondering, if the parents were in the childs shoes would they have made the same decision for themselves? Would they have suffered through the pain like the child did? Has the child had medical attention for her diabetes in the past? If so, then why no treatment this particular time? Have the parents had medical attention for themselves? If so, how long ago? Have the parents always received every thing they ever asked for in prayer? Were they sure that things right in their own life so that their prayers would have been answered? These are just a few of the questions that the parents will have to answer. Unfortunately, they will also have to live with the decision they made for their daughter the rest of their lives.

Guess the parents didn't realize that God created the medical professionals that would have been able to help their child.

They should have allowed the treatment for their children and prayed that it would work.

Surely denying childcare and even refusing vaccines for whatever reasons, is a form of child abuse, especially when the child dies.

These are very sad stories. I believe in prayer and using medicinal herbs for treatment of illness. I do have a problem with a lot of the medical intervention and believe alot of it does more harm than good. Here is an example that happened in my life. When my son was very little we had decided to use medicinal herbs and food for illness. My son seemed not right to me so I took him to a doctor that knew how I felt about chemically made medicines. I told him that I wanted to treat the child on my own. He told me that if he was not better in a couple days to bring him back. Three days later I took him back to the doctor and he was hospitalized with Pneumonia. There is a time and place for modern medicine. Though I believe that our Lord above has given us natural things as medicine, I aslo believe that common sense beyond faith needs to be used.

I think the parents should have a say about what happens to thier kids. This crap about parents forcing thier personal agendas is stated by employees of the medical field or the government. They've always wanted our children anyway. It's the parents rights as to what happens to thier kids. It may souond harsh, but we can't give up that right. We've had so many taken away as it is. Now if, while the child is still alive, the parent is told that they may face manslaughter it gives the parents the option to weigh if thier religious beliefs (no matter how crazy we think they are) are more important than thier child. I'm not saying they may be right, but this is the country of freedom. Some people take it to the extream and need a little wake up call with a "gentle" nudge, not a forced push.

These are very sad stories. I believe in prayer and using medicinal herbs for treatment of illness. I do have a problem with a lot of the medical intervention and believe alot of it does more harm than good. Here is an example that happened in my life. When my son was very little we had decided to use medicinal herbs and food for illness. My son seemed not right to me so I took him to a doctor that knew how I felt about chemically made medicines. I told him that I wanted to treat the child on my own. He told me that if he was not better in a couple days to bring him back. Three days later I took him back to the doctor and he was hospitalized with Pneumonia. There is a time and place for modern medicine. Though I believe that our Lord above has given us natural things as medicine, I aslo believe that common sense beyond faith needs to be used.

Where do they think this medical science and technology came from? The Devil? Alot of medicine comes from herbs, plants, trees grown on our planet from the great divine! Did these people ever think to ask the children what they wanted? I would suspect they wanted their parents to love them enough to help them when there was help to give. I do believe they should be held accountable for their actions in NEGLECT of their children! God loves us all, and The divine gave us these miracles of hope to cure us!
Poor babies!! God Bless the little children!!

Where do they think this medical science and technology came from? The Devil? Alot of medicine comes from herbs, plants, trees grown on our planet from the great divine! Did these people ever think to ask the children what they wanted? I would suspect they wanted their parents to love them enough to help them when there was help to give. I do believe they should be held accountable for their actions in NEGLECT of their children! God loves us all, and The divine gave us these miracles of hope to cure us!
Poor babies!! God Bless the little children!!

Prayer is important, but we as parents have to do our part too. The children should have gotten medical treatment along with prayer.

I belive in prayer,and in God,i do belive that the parents should be held with charges,the poor girl suffered alot,that not fair to her ,to end her life like that,,she didn't even have any more chances to grow up,she a beautiful little girl ,why would they not want to give her medicane to help treat what she had,instead they had to pray,and let the little girl die,,,i am very angry ,at her parents,i could never do that to my kids,,,and i got one that has sezuires,i am doing every thing in my power to help her we have to got to st.louis hospital this month for eplisey center,,,i love my girls,on is 7 that has seziures and the other is 15,,,,the parents should be held with charges...thank you and good day

I belive in prayer,and in God,i do belive that the parents should be held with charges,the poor girl suffered alot,that not fair to her ,to end her life like that,,she didn't even have any more chances to grow up,she a beautiful little girl ,why would they not want to give her medicane to help treat what she had,instead they had to pray,and let the little girl die,,,i am very angry ,at her parents,i could never do that to my kids,,,and i got one that has sezuires,i am doing every thing in my power to help her we have to got to st.louis hospital this month for eplisey center,,,i love my girls,on is 7 that has seziures and the other is 15,,,,the parents should be held with charges...thank you and good day

IT IS PARENTS MOST SECRED DUTY TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO DOCTORS
IMMEDIATELY FOR WHAT SO EVER ILLNESS TO THEM INSTEAD OF PRAYING TO ALMIGHTY SOLELY AND TREATING WITH THEIR OWN SELF MADE MEDICINE.

I can't believe parents would do this to their children. As a praying parent, I do understand the thought behind these parents wanting to pray the children well. However, the same God they are praying to is also the one who gave some of us the ability to be doctors. If they truly read the Bible, they would have acted on the scripture in Hewbrews 11, . . .faith without works is dead. Meaning you can have faith that your child will be healed but you must also do what it takes to help make your child well. That would be to take your child to the doctor and let them do their job. Pray that the medicines and procedures help with healing your child.
I pray that God will have mercy on the souls of these parents.

Absolutely not!! If a childs life is threatened they should not be allowed to choose. If they refuse treatment they should be legally charged for murdering their children!

I believe that these parents should be held responsible. As a believer of god myself, God helps those who help themselves. Prayer is effective, but as parents it is there responsibility to take the proper medical care for their children. They are responsibile for them until the age of eighteen. As children are helpless, that is why they are there as ADULTS to take care of them until they are able to do so themselves. This makes me so angry that they would use faith as an excuse. They know thier responibity. They should do time for thier negligence. This is so terrible that they let something so serious just work it self out. Infections and life threatning diseases don't just go away with out proper treatment. And yes prayer helps. I do believe in miracles. But this is not one of those situations. They could have and should have done more!!!!!

I am sure that not everyone will agree with me and I do believe everyone has a right to their beliefs; however, Children are our future. I dont know how those parents can sit well with themselves knowing that thy cost their child their future. I do believe that ppl do have a right to refuse treatment. That should be a patients right. In a sence, her parents were playing god with her life and look at how it ended. Very senceless. It is very contraversal about whether the parents should be changed with something. Either way, they will have to live with the choices that they made and know that the choice that they did make ended with the tragic death of their child. If they do not get charged, I hope that that will be an everyday thought in their minds and know that they could have done something to save her. I personally think it is child abuse. They refused treatment for their child that would have let her live. I dont know how they will be able to live with that decision for the rest of their lives. Essentially, they will have created their own hell!!!! I know this sounds harsh but just think about how much torture and pain that child went thru and then maybe this comment wont be so harsh. This may also sound mean but I hope that these parents do not have anymore children. Imagine them doing this all over again!!! I know its mean to say that but childen are innocent and that childs life was taken for no good reason. God will be the ultimate one who will sit in judgement of this cpl.

I am sure that not everyone will agree with me and I do believe everyone has a right to their beliefs; however, Children are our future. I dont know how those parents can sit well with themselves knowing that thy cost their child their future. I do believe that ppl do have a right to refuse treatment. That should be a patients right. In a sence, her parents were playing god with her life and look at how it ended. Very senceless. It is very contraversal about whether the parents should be changed with something. Either way, they will have to live with the choices that they made and know that the choice that they did make ended with the tragic death of their child. If they do not get charged, I hope that that will be an everyday thought in their minds and know that they could have done something to save her. I personally think it is child abuse. They refused treatment for their child that would have let her live. I dont know how they will be able to live with that decision for the rest of their lives. Essentially, they will have created their own hell!!!! I know this sounds harsh but just think about how much torture and pain that child went thru and then maybe this comment wont be so harsh. This may also sound mean but I hope that these parents do not have anymore children. Imagine them doing this all over again!!! I know its mean to say that but childen are innocent and that childs life was taken for no good reason. God will be the ultimate one who will sit in judgement of this cpl.

I am sure that not everyone will agree with me and I do believe everyone has a right to their beliefs; however, Children are our future. I dont know how those parents can sit well with themselves knowing that thy cost their child their future. I do believe that ppl do have a right to refuse treatment. That should be a patients right. In a sence, her parents were playing god with her life and look at how it ended. Very senceless. It is very contraversal about whether the parents should be changed with something. Either way, they will have to live with the choices that they made and know that the choice that they did make ended with the tragic death of their child. If they do not get charged, I hope that that will be an everyday thought in their minds and know that they could have done something to save her. I personally think it is child abuse. They refused treatment for their child that would have let her live. I dont know how they will be able to live with that decision for the rest of their lives. Essentially, they will have created their own hell!!!! I know this sounds harsh but just think about how much torture and pain that child went thru and then maybe this comment wont be so harsh. This may also sound mean but I hope that these parents do not have anymore children. Imagine them doing this all over again!!! I know its mean to say that but childen are innocent and that childs life was taken for no good reason. God will be the ultimate one who will sit in judgement of this cpl.

God is the one who made this world and every living and non-living thing in it. God made the plants and chemicals etc. that we now use as medicine for ourselves and our children, our parents and our siblings, when they need it. Certain things such as cloning animals or humans, or using the drugs to get high, is NOT something God intended. But simple medicine, given only when absolutely needed, is something that God put here for our use. The parents thought they had only 2 choices-Ask God for help or use medicine. But that's not the case. My dad, a Christian, my mother, a Christian, are both dependent on the medicine and vitamins they take daily. My dad is insulin dependent. God could clear up his diabetes IF it was His will but it's not. For some reason God needs my dad to go through this--maybe it will heal more lives for him to have it than it would for him to not have it. Who knows. But God GAVE him the medicine to keep it under control. Now THAT is an answer to prayer.

God is the one who made this world and every living and non-living thing in it. God made the plants and chemicals etc. that we now use as medicine for ourselves and our children, our parents and our siblings, when they need it. Certain things such as cloning animals or humans, or using the drugs to get high, is NOT something God intended. But simple medicine, given only when absolutely needed, is something that God put here for our use. The parents thought they had only 2 choices-Ask God for help or use medicine. But that's not the case. My dad, a Christian, my mother, a Christian, are both dependent on the medicine and vitamins they take daily. My dad is insulin dependent. God could clear up his diabetes IF it was His will but it's not. For some reason God needs my dad to go through this--maybe it will heal more lives for him to have it than it would for him to not have it. Who knows. But God GAVE him the medicine to keep it under control. Now THAT is an answer to prayer.

God doesn't expect people to just sit there and pray, otherwise manna would still be falling from the sky. People were given intelligence and resources to USE. Jesus didn't tell anyone to stop treating the sick, quite the opposite. We were directed to care for the sick and this is what these parents should have done. In fact, virtually every religion seems to direct people to care for the sick and injured. It's a basic expectation across belief systems. These parents have tragically missed the message and their girls have unfairly paid for their mistakes. The parents should be held accountable and any other children in the households should be found safer, more responsible homes immediately. It's one thing to risk your own life, but you never risk a child's!

I think that we should have a federal law that protects our children. Having worked with Child Abuse Prevention, this is one of the worst types of abuse that there is. No one, not even a parent has the right to play God and these people who call themselves parents should have to pay the price for the death of a human the same as others do.

I believe that the parents of both girls should be held accountable. I am a Christian. I do believe in God. I also believe in the power of prayer and that we should be praying for sick children. I was once told that "God gives every bird its food. He just doesn't put it in the nest." It is the same here. God wants us to pray and at the same time doing what we need to do in order to get what we desire. Nothing good comes without work. In the Bible it says "Faith without works is dead." We show our Faith by our works. Which means taking our children to the hospital or doctors office when needed. I have four kids and I can't immagine putting my children through what those girls went through. I do pray for my children everyday. But when my children get sick I get them medical attention. Why would God give us medical knowlege if He didn't want us to use that knowlege for good.

I believe that the parents of both girls should be held accountable. I am a Christian. I do believe in God. I also believe in the power of prayer and that we should be praying for sick children. I was once told that "God gives every bird its food. He just doesn't put it in the nest." It is the same here. God wants us to pray and at the same time doing what we need to do in order to get what we desire. Nothing good comes without work. In the Bible it says "Faith without works is dead." We show our Faith by our works. Which means taking our children to the hospital or doctors office when needed. I have four kids and I can't immagine putting my children through what those girls went through. I do pray for my children everyday. But when my children get sick I get them medical attention. Why would God give us medical knowlege if He didn't want us to use that knowlege for good.

It is our responsibility to keep our children safe and do ALL that is in our ability to care for them. If these parents are too stupid to know right from wrong then they need to be paranted and forced to do the right thing. For some strange reason common sense is not so common. These little souls are a gift from God and how dare these idiots not care for them with all that is within our ability to do so. You will have your "reward" in the end my friend. I shall pray for your souls, cause your gonna need it.

This is not about what we believe, it is about what is legal. I'm not an attorney, but here's my humble opinion.

We have the right to accept/refuse medical treatment for our children. This right can be utilized based on common sense, our religious preferences or some other "authority" we recognize in our life. Different cultures have different ways of dealing with things. Either way, along with our RIGHT comes an obligation, responsibility and liability for the outcome. First and foremost, we are all liable to our children for our decisions. If our decisions harm our child, we become liable under the law.

While these cases are sad, they are extreme cases and are NOT the norm. Most parents are responsible enough to seek treatment for their children when it's necessary. Negligence or incompetence when exercising parental authority and/or control over a child is commonly known as "child abuse" in this country.

There are many forms of abuse. Lack of medical care is one of them. On the face of it, these are child abuse cases, not parental rights cases and we should be very mindful about losing sight of that fact.

If your neighbor abuses her child, do you give up YOUR parental rights because she abused her "privilege"? How many seconds did it take you to answer that one? ;)

The obvious answer is, "Of course not!"

These cases, while an outrage to any self respecting, NORMAL parent, should not be used as a "cause" to further erode our parental rights. We have enough government influence and interference with our parental authority as it is.

The law holds each of us "accountable" for our decisions. That is as it should be and as far as it SHOULD go in relation to personal decisions for our children. Otherwise, we become nothing more than incubators/baby sitters for state owned property (a.k.a. "children").

This is not about what we believe, it is about what is legal. I'm not an attorney, but here's my humble opinion.

We have the right to accept/refuse medical treatment for our children. This right can be utilized based on common sense, our religious preferences or some other "authority" we recognize in our life. Different cultures have different ways of dealing with things. Either way, along with our RIGHT comes an obligation, responsibility and liability for the outcome. First and foremost, we are all liable to our children for our decisions. If our decisions harm our child, we become liable under the law.

While these cases are sad, they are extreme cases and are NOT the norm. Most parents are responsible enough to seek treatment for their children when it's necessary. Negligence or incompetence when exercising parental authority and/or control over a child is commonly known as "child abuse" in this country.

There are many forms of abuse. Lack of medical care is one of them. On the face of it, these are child abuse cases, not parental rights cases and we should be very mindful about losing sight of that fact.

If your neighbor abuses her child, do you want to give up YOUR authority because she abused her "privilege"? How many seconds did it take you to answer that one? ;)

The obvious answer is, "Of course not!"

These cases, while an outrage to any self respecting, NORMAL parent, should not be used as a "cause" to further erode our parental rights. We have enough government influence and interference with our parental authority as it is.

The law holds each of us "accountable" for our decisions. That is as it should be and as far as it SHOULD go in relation to personal decisions for our children. Otherwise, we become nothing more than incubators/baby sitters for state owned property (a.k.a. "children").

This is not about what we believe, it is about what is legal. I'm not an attorney, but here's my humble opinion.

We have the right to accept/refuse medical treatment for our children. This right can be utilized based on common sense, our religious preferences or some other "authority" we recognize in our life. Different cultures have different ways of dealing with things. Either way, along with our RIGHT comes an obligation, responsibility and liability for the outcome. First and foremost, we are all liable to our children for our decisions. If our decisions harm our child, we become liable under the law.

While these cases are sad, they are extreme cases and are NOT the norm. Most parents are responsible enough to seek treatment for their children when it's necessary. Negligence or incompetence when exercising parental authority and/or control over a child is commonly known as "child abuse" in this country.

There are many forms of abuse. Lack of medical care is one of them. On the face of it, these are child abuse cases, not parental rights cases and we should be very mindful about losing sight of that fact.

If your neighbor abuses her child, do you want to give up YOUR authority because she abused her "privilege"? How many seconds did it take you to answer that one? (smile)

The obvious answer is, "Of course not!"

These cases, while an outrage to any self respecting, NORMAL parent, should not be used as a "cause" to further erode our parental rights. We have enough government influence and interference with our parental authority as it is.

The law holds each of us "accountable" for our decisions. That is as it should be and as far as it SHOULD go in relation to personal decisions for our children. Otherwise, we become nothing more than incubators/baby sitters for state owned property (a.k.a. "children").

This is not about what we believe, it is about what is legal. I'm not an attorney, but here's my humble opinion.

We have the right to accept/refuse medical treatment for our children. This right can be utilized based on common sense, our religious preferences or some other authority we recognize in our life. Different cultures have different ways of dealing with things. Either way, along with our RIGHT comes an obligation, responsibility and liability for the outcome. First and foremost, we are all liable to our children for our decisions. If our decisions harm our child, we become liable under the law.

While these cases are sad, they are extreme cases and are NOT the norm. Most parents are responsible enough to seek treatment for their children when it's necessary. Negligence or incompetence when exercising parental authority and/or control over a child is commonly known as child abuse in this country.

There are many forms of abuse. Lack of medical care is one of them. On the face of it, these are child abuse cases, not parental rights cases and we should be very mindful about losing sight of that fact.

If your neighbor abuses her child, do you want to give up YOUR authority because she abused her "privilege"? How many seconds did it take you to answer that one? LOL

The obvious answer is, "Of course not!"

These cases, while an outrage to any self respecting, NORMAL parent, should not be used as a "cause" to further erode our parental rights. We have enough government influence and interference with our parental authority as it is.

The law holds each of us "accountable" for our decisions. That is as it should be and as far as it SHOULD go in relation to personal decisions for our children. Otherwise, we become nothing more than incubators/baby sitters for state owned property (a.k.a. "children").

It is a shame that people would bring children into the world only to let them die. If you have a child you made the choice to have sex, God did not put that child in there, you created it. He gave free will to do so and so in turn once they made the choice to have the child they completely left that child to Him. The child is their responsibility, not His. My heart aches for the suffering that the children went through for the sake of someone else's belief. Religion is all about helping others not giving up and letting them die.

This is not about what we believe, it is about what is legal. I'm not an attorney, but here's my humble and learned opinion.

We have the right to accept or refuse medical treatment for our children. This right can be utilized based on common sense, our religious preferences or some other authority we recognize in our life. Different cultures have different ways of dealing with things. Either way, along with our RIGHT comes an obligation, responsibility and liability for the outcome. First and foremost, we are all liable to our children for our decisions. If our decisions harm our child, we become liable under the law.

While these cases are sad, they are extreme cases and are NOT the norm. Most parents are responsible enough to seek treatment for their children when it's necessary. Negligence or incompetence when exercising parental authority or control over a child is commonly known as child abuse in this country.

There are many forms of abuse. Lack of medical care is one of them. On the face of it, these are child abuse cases, not parental rights cases and we should be very mindful about losing sight of that fact.

If your neighbor abuses her child, do you want to give up YOUR authority because she abused her privilege? How many seconds did it take you to answer that one? LOL

The obvious answer is of course not!

These cases, while an outrage to any self respecting, NORMAL parent, should not be used as a "cause" to further erode our parental rights. We have enough government influence and interference with our parental authority as it is.

The law holds each of us accountable for our decisions. That is as it should be and as far as it SHOULD go in relation to personal decisions for our children. Otherwise, we become nothing more than incubators for state owned property (a.k.a. children).

ATTENTION ADMINISTRATOR:
Your system is whacked today! LOL

It says system error then proceeds to post, but you don't see it until the end. I HOPE THIS ONE GETS THROUGH!

Have a great day all!

I suggest the obvious... and that is (put simply): do what is in the child's best interest... not the interest of beliefs of the parents... it is the child who is sick!!

If the child has had no adverse reactions to medication in the past (and the parents are well aware of potential side effects that have/or could result(ed)... and the child is in grave danger; they should look out for his/her best interest.

However, if the child has had adverse reactions in the past ( to prescription drugs); and the parents have a time tested and proven alternative method to treating the child... and the child's best interests are still first and foremost, then the alternative method should be accepted.

Some of these comments are unbelievable. The same people that are so religous that they won't take their suffering children to the doctors and think it is alright if others don't, are some of the same people who are so against abortion! It is so hypacritical! If you are so worried about the big, bad government trying to "control" your parenting that you think it is alright for parents to not seek help for children in emergency medical situations then you, of course, can't believe that the government should have any say in the medical decisions women make over their OWN bodies, right?
Of course these "parents" need to be held accountable for their actions! They let their children suffer and die! This is absolutely not just child abuse. It is murder!
If you want to not go to the doctor yourself, fine. If you are an adult you have a right to kill yourself, I guess. A child should not be held accountable to the whims & crazy beliefs of their parents. Where is the line? A parent says his/her religous belief is that God says he should beat the child, kill him-neglect him, sexually abuse him! People can and do say any crazy thing they want. It doesn't make it true or ok! Why all the understanding and sympathy for these people? Just because they say, "it's my religion", that means they are exempt from responsibility to protect and care for this child?
The government needs to protect these poor children from their parents, absolutely!

Some of these comments are unbelievable. The same people that are so religous that they won't take their suffering children to the doctors and think it is alright if others don't, are some of the same people who are so against abortion! It is so hypacritical! If you are so worried about the big, bad government trying to "control" your parenting that you think it is alright for parents to not seek help for children in emergency medical situations then you, of course, can't believe that the government should have any say in the medical decisions women make over their OWN bodies, right?
Of course these "parents" need to be held accountable for their actions! They let their children suffer and die! This is absolutely not just child abuse. It is murder!
If you want to not go to the doctor yourself, fine. If you are an adult you have a right to kill yourself, I guess. A child should not be held accountable to the whims & crazy beliefs of their parents. Where is the line? A parent says his/her religous belief is that God says he should beat the child, kill him-neglect him, sexually abuse him! People can and do say any crazy thing they want. It doesn't make it true or ok! Why all the understanding and sympathy for these people? Just because they say, "it's my religion", that means they are exempt from responsibility to protect and care for this child?
The government needs to protect these poor children from their parents, absolutely!

This is total bull crap! Are any of you parents? Can't you see the media spin on this? Do you really think that all they did was pray? I bet they where holding their children, wetting their heads, cooling their temperatures, cleaning them, rocking them, loving them, whispering how wonderful they were and probably begging them to get better! I bet neither set of parents wanted their children to die but I also bet neither set of parents trusted the medical system and you people seem to want to give that medical system more responsibility! Are you all crazy out there? Have you lost your minds? Does the Government have to take everything from you before you realize there is a problem? How many children die in a hospital setting? Why are you not rioting there? Do any of you have children out there that have been misdiagnosed? I do. My son could have died from the treatment he received at Children’s hospital in Ohio. Thank God he only walked away as a medically sensitive child with a hearing problem from all the medication they pumped in him! They made a lot of money though and I learned a lot of lessons- Don’t trust the medical community. They’re not doing what is in the best interest of your child- they’re doing research and staying on the path that brings in the most money! I now refuse to allow Doctors to give my son any shots or drawl any blood. Its amazing that once they realize how serious I am- that they miraculously find other ways to treat and/or care for my son and he’s better off because of it. His “medically induced seizures” have been gone for several months now. By the way- his problems started with an injury- an accident- not an illness- three years ago- he was born happy, healthy, blessed and prosperous but unknowingly was put in harms way when I allowed him to go to a hospital. Please think about the media spin on this issue and think about what the real issue is here. I’ll go to jail before I allow another Doctor or hospital to harm my son for the sake of research. How come the immunizations that are given to your infants have a wear out date of seven to ten years but are used to treat sexually transmitted diseases? Since when are your babies having sex? Get real- Get knowledge and please, please find out what is really going on!

Some of these comments are unbelievable. The same people that are so religous that they won't take their suffering children to the doctors and think it is alright if others don't, are some of the same people who are so against abortion! It is so hypacritical! If you are so worried about the big, bad government trying to "control" your parenting that you think it is alright for parents to not seek help for children in emergency medical situations then you, of course, can't believe that the government should have any say in the medical decisions women make over their OWN bodies, right?
Of course these "parents" need to be held accountable for their actions! They let their children suffer and die! This is absolutely not just child abuse. It is murder!
If you want to not go to the doctor yourself, fine. If you are an adult you have a right to kill yourself, I guess. A child should not be held accountable to the whims & crazy beliefs of their parents. Where is the line? A parent says his/her religous belief is that God says he should beat the child, kill him-neglect him, sexually abuse him! People can and do say any crazy thing they want. It doesn't make it true or ok! Why all the understanding and sympathy for these people? Just because they say, "it's my religion", that means they are exempt from responsibility to protect and care for this child?
The government needs to protect these poor children from their parents, absolutely!

Some of these comments are unbelievable. The same people that are so religous that they won't take their suffering children to the doctors and think it is alright if others don't, are some of the same people who are so against abortion! It is so hypacritical! If you are so worried about the big, bad government trying to "control" your parenting that you think it is alright for parents to not seek help for children in emergency medical situations then you, of course, can't believe that the government should have any say in the medical decisions women make over their OWN bodies, right?
Of course these "parents" need to be held accountable for their actions! They let their children suffer and die! This is absolutely not just child abuse. It is murder!
If you want to not go to the doctor yourself, fine. If you are an adult you have a right to kill yourself, I guess. A child should not be held accountable to the whims & crazy beliefs of their parents. Where is the line? A parent says his/her religous belief is that God says he should beat the child, kill him-neglect him, sexually abuse him! People can and do say any crazy thing they want. It doesn't make it true or ok! Why all the understanding and sympathy for these people? Just because they say, "it's my religion", that means they are exempt from responsibility to protect and care for this child?
The government needs to protect these poor children from their parents, absolutely!

Some of these comments are unbelievable. The same people that are so religous that they won't take their suffering children to the doctors and think it is alright if others don't, are some of the same people who are so against abortion! It is so hypacritical! If you are so worried about the big, bad government trying to "control" your parenting that you think it is alright for parents to not seek help for children in emergency medical situations then you, of course, can't believe that the government should have any say in the medical decisions women make over their OWN bodies, right?
Of course these "parents" need to be held accountable for their actions! They let their children suffer and die! This is absolutely not just child abuse. It is murder!
If you want to not go to the doctor yourself, fine. If you are an adult you have a right to kill yourself, I guess. A child should not be held accountable to the whims & crazy beliefs of their parents. Where is the line? A parent says his/her religous belief is that God says he should beat the child, kill him-neglect him, sexually abuse him! People can and do say any crazy thing they want. It doesn't make it true or ok! Why all the understanding and sympathy for these people? Just because they say, "it's my religion", that means they are exempt from responsibility to protect and care for this child?
The government needs to protect these poor children from their parents, absolutely!

I just can't understand how these parents could just let
their daughter lay in pain for how long and not get her help.I believe that there should be a trial and let their peers judge them. What if they have more children and do the same thing again. Children are not capable of making these kinds of decisions for themselves, that is why they look up to their parents for the best interests to be made for them. All I know is that a little girl died in pain because her parents were not thinking of what kind of help she needed, they were only thinking of what they wanted. Prayer is a wonderful thing to have, but God made doctors to relieve and heal people. My neck was broken in two places, prayer would not have healed that.

It's funny there are two things that keep rolling through my head

The first is an old joke about a cancer patient who prayed for healing. A surgeon came in and said I can operate and save your life, but the patient refused saying God would heal him. A radiologist came in and said he could stop the cancer, but the patient refused in the name of God. Finally, an oncologist came in and told him chemotherapy would save his life, but the patient refused in the name of prayer. The man died. And when he saw God he asked "Why did you forsake me? Didn't you hear my prayer?"

God replied, "I answered your prayer, I sent you a surgeon, a radiologist and an oncologist, but you refused."

The second is a line from a movie "You need to get a license to catch a fish, but any asshole can have a kid."

I'm a teacher and have dealt with the parents who despite all reason will not help their child. This sick and twisted mentality is so sadly frustrating to all who care. But in our society animals had rights before children. This reminds me of a slavery/owner mentality. How can we allow this in the name of religion? The demented can find a way to defend any perverse argument by way of the Bible. It is not to be used for this evil purpose.

We first need to think of our own words toward one another. Are we walking in love when we say negative things toward another? Also, were we there? Do you know how many tears those parents shed while crying out to the God of their lives? Have you ever felt desperate for something... like life? Runny noses are too quickly taken to the doctor these days, so I doubt they treated this circumstance with the same attitude as a runny nose. Do you ever remember needing God so badly for something? I suppose that they were needing God so badly and I am supposing that they lost much sleep and much food and much time for themselves. I am supposing that they sat by that child moment by moment of every day calling out to the God of Heaven. We must think more deeply into the situation than just ... shame on them, they should have just ran to the doctor like everyone else. Remember the Bible says to be in the world and not of the world. You translate it the way you want, and let those families translate it the way they want. Take the "religion" out of it, and it is truth that we need no more government taking control of our lives. No one or group has the "right" to make decisions for me or anyone else for that matter. Where a child goes to school, how often he goes to the doctor, whether or not he gets vaccinations, etc. Those of you opposed to homosexuality... here is a ?...what if the public school system (ran by the government who is only responsible for making decisions to protect you) decided it was best to promote the lifesyle and created a "homosexual" day at school.. and on that day everyone dresses in the opposites clothing and so forth. Would you support that? It's all about control with the government. BUT, if WE as a God loving God fearing group of people would PRAY for our leadership and our neighbors and walk in love every moment of every day, sacrificing our time and energy for others in need (like a whole community should have been praying with the divine authority and power of Jesus Christ for that child.. repenting for sin and confessing faults one to another... then maybe our God in Heaven could have moved for this little child). We need to take responsibility for ourselves. Be blessed, don't judge, don't fear, and trust God.

We first need to think of our own words toward one another. Are we walking in love when we say negative things toward another? Also, were we there? Do you know how many tears those parents shed while crying out to the God of their lives? Have you ever felt desperate for something... like life? Runny noses are too quickly taken to the doctor these days, so I doubt they treated this circumstance with the same attitude as a runny nose. Do you ever remember needing God so badly for something? I suppose that they were needing God so badly and I am supposing that they lost much sleep and much food and much time for themselves. I am supposing that they sat by that child moment by moment of every day calling out to the God of Heaven. We must think more deeply into the situation than just ... shame on them, they should have just ran to the doctor like everyone else. Remember the Bible says to be in the world and not of the world. You translate it the way you want, and let those families translate it the way they want. Take the "religion" out of it, and it is truth that we need no more government taking control of our lives. No one or group has the "right" to make decisions for me or anyone else for that matter. Where a child goes to school, how often he goes to the doctor, whether or not he gets vaccinations, etc. Those of you opposed to homosexuality... here is a ?...what if the public school system (ran by the government who is only responsible for making decisions to protect you) decided it was best to promote the lifesyle and created a "homosexual" day at school.. and on that day everyone dresses in the opposites clothing and so forth. Would you support that? It's all about control with the government. BUT, if WE as a God loving God fearing group of people would PRAY for our leadership and our neighbors and walk in love every moment of every day, sacrificing our time and energy for others in need (like a whole community should have been praying with the divine authority and power of Jesus Christ for that child.. repenting for sin and confessing faults one to another... then maybe our God in Heaven could have moved for this little child). We need to take responsibility for ourselves. Be blessed, don't judge, don't fear, and trust God.

These parents certainly are responsible for the deaths of their children. Their religious beliefs are their own, and they can practice them on themselves if they wish. The children were minors, and were too young to make these types of decisions for themselves, and should have had a "child advocate" at the hospital in the form of a Social worker to speak for them. I blame the hospital, also. They should have also had a "voice" there to speak for them! These children died needlessly. As a Social worker, we all need to understand that children are people, and as such, have rights, also!

These parents certainly are responsible for the deaths of their children. Their religious beliefs are their own, and they can practice them on themselves if they wish. The children were minors, and were too young to make these types of decisions for themselves, and should have had a "child advocate" at the hospital in the form of a Social worker to speak for them. I blame the hospital, also. They should have also had a "voice" there to speak for them! These children died needlessly. As a Social worker, we all need to understand that children are people, and as such, have rights, also!

These parents certainly are responsible for the deaths of their children. Their religious beliefs are their own, and they can practice them on themselves if they wish. The children were minors, and were too young to make these types of decisions for themselves, and should have had a "child advocate" at the hospital in the form of a Social worker to speak for them. I blame the hospital, also. They should have also had a "voice" there to speak for them! These children died needlessly. As a Social worker, we all need to understand that children are people, and as such, have rights, also!

Parents should not have the right to choose prayer over medical care for children. If you choose prayer, use it along with medical care. We live in the 21st centry, we have the technology to keep people healthy longer. God didn't allow for the technology to be denied anyone. Parents need to look to those who know for advice, sometimes those who know are the medical community.
Thank You
Cricket

I feel bad for these parents only because their beliefs are so misguided. What they have done is criminal. Our good Lord works through people, and so prayer works in conjunction with medical care, and have faith in the doctors that have been placed in your life by God.

I feel bad for these parents only because their beliefs are so misguided. What they have done is criminal. Our good Lord works through people, and so prayer works in conjunction with medical care, and have faith in the doctors that have been placed in your life by God.

Neglect? Abuse? Murder? CHARGE THESE PARENTS WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE. I'm the mother of a diabetic child, and this child had to be very, very, very sick.... Sick enough that the average, intelligent parent would have taken this child to a hospital - regardless of their religious beliefs. This is an extremely painful death and there was absolutely no need for it. Insulin is not a cure, but it is a life-saving treatment. My son has been a type 1 diabetic on insulin since the age of 2. That was fifteen years ago. I can't imagine not doing everything in my power (including prayer) to keep him alive...thank god for doctors and insulin!!

I am heartbroken over incidents like this. These people are not Christians, they are criminals. This is a series crime and they should be punished and if they have other children most definitely should be taken away from them for good.

I am heartbroken over incidents like this. These people are not Christians, they are criminals. This is a series crime and they should be punished and if they have other children most definitely should be taken away from them for good.

I believe that God works through prayer with the help of the medical community. If God did not want us to have the knowledge to treat diseases and save lives, we would not have it. It is up to us to utilize everything at our disposal to protect those we love.

Well we are promised in the constitution Health and Prosperity.

Children are voilated constantly the right to life. the parents should be charge with neglect. We are care takers of children on loan from GOD. We must use the wisdom God gives us. He gives us Doctors as a healing. So if they are not taking their child to the doctor and are just praying. Where is their faith? Not in God because he has provide people that heal thru him? Wake up Dummies, Move on your faith and take God's Babies to the doctor.

They want to live and be healed.

I believe that God answered the parents' prayers. He sent them MEDICAL help! They refused. Yes, they should be held responsible and accountable. As others have said before me, FAITH without WORKS, is DEAD.

in my opion no child should pass away if possiable before there parents , these two girls had a full life ahead of them. who know what they could have done in the future.

Prayer doesn't work. God doesn't care what goes on down here in such minute detail. There are trillions upon trillions of other worlds in the universe. We're no more important in the grand scheme of things than the fate of a gnat is to us. Do you think that God listens to each and every little prayer? Prayer and religions are there to make us feel better about the fate that awaits all of us. It's there to explain to us what we cannot explain. Basically we have to take personal responsibility for our actions. We have doctors for health issues. Use them. Also take care of your body. It's the only one you get. And if you're a parent you're responsible for the body of your child. To fail to get readily available medical help for a child and instead gather around an utter a bunch of words to an invisible being, if there is one, is at best criminal negligence, and at worst manslaughter. In reality this case is no different than someone driving drunk and hitting a kid.

I would think that any parent would want to do everything they possibly could to help their child and save their life. But ulitmately it is the parents desicion. In some cases I could see where they wouldnt want the child to suffer any more through treatments and would want them to be at peace, but things like pneumonia can be prevented and treated with antibiotics.

This is appalling! I can understand their faith issues but to put your beliefs before your children is unacceptable. I was raised strict Roman Catholic and their is NOTHING in my beliefs that would stop me from doing everything in my power to help my child -NOTHING!. I cannot for one second believe that any God would want this type of worship. It is incomprehensible and inhuman. I believe they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

There is no way that i would let anything stand in the way of my kids getting medical treatment especially if its something simple that could be cured with medicines. I realize we all have a time to die but sometimes parents do not always know what is best for their children. Some parents should not have children. I love my children so much and i would do anything if i thought i could save them. If a parent is found negligent in the death of a child then by all means i think they should face jail time or the death penalty. Its senseless to me that these parents let their children die. Its crazy that the doctors let them die because doctors are meant to care and treat their patients. This situation with the children is very sad and breaks my heart. I would never let any religion ever have that much power over my kids lives. Praying is one thing but praying hoping it will save a sick child when it can be treated is not the way to go. Yes praying helps however I don't think its a good idea to test the almighty being that way.

These kinds of so-called Parents are just plain STUPID, a la
Mike Adams. They should have accepted the Treatment, and prayed for their Child to make it!!!!!!

These kinds of so-called Parents are just plain STUPID, a la
Mike Adams. They should have accepted the Treatment, and prayed for their Child to make it!!!!!!

These kinds of so-called Parents are just plain STUPID, a la
Mike Adams. They should have accepted the Treatment, and prayed for their Child to make it!!!!!!

Having faith is one thing, but letting your child die is another. If parents want to put their own health at risk, that is their choice, but denying a child medical care is cruel and unusual punishment. I think they should be held accountable.

Debbie W.

Having faith is one thing, but letting your child die is another. If parents want to put their own health at risk, that is their choice, but denying a child medical care is cruel and unusual punishment. I think they should be held accountable.

Debbie W.

as a mother of four young girls aged 7,5,3 and 23 months i am appalled that they were allowed to withhold necessary medical care from their children...it makes me sick to my stomach when ppl think they can take their childrens lives into their own hands like that....maybe after losing them it should make them wake up.

to be honest,i think a punishment worse than manslaughter charges should be given to ppl that have the same ideas as these ridiculous excuses for humans.
were was the parental love and responsibility that the rest of us feel for our children?

gone in the name of someone they cannot even prove exists....absolute stupidity!!!!

its about time they all grew up and took their responsibilities seriously and made sure their kids get the adequate treatment regardless of the costs....u can always make more money ,you cant get your children back!

mags from bolton in england,uk
(mags_dwyer@hotmail.com)

as a mother of four young girls aged 7,5,3 and 23 months i am appalled that they were allowed to withhold necessary medical care from their children...it makes me sick to my stomach when ppl think they can take their childrens lives into their own hands like that....maybe after losing them it should make them wake up.

to be honest,i think a punishment worse than manslaughter charges should be given to ppl that have the same ideas as these ridiculous excuses for humans.
were was the parental love and responsibility that the rest of us feel for our children?

gone in the name of someone they cannot even prove exists....absolute stupidity!!!!

its about time they all grew up and took their responsibilities seriously and made sure their kids get the adequate treatment regardless of the costs....u can always make more money ,you cant get your children back!

mags from bolton in england,uk

I personally am a mother of a very sick little boy in the past. He has had 16 surgeries and he is 16 years old. I believe in God but I also believe that I have to practice my faith in God and put my child in God's hands at times. I cannot imagine refuse him medical treatment when so many times he was so ill. He would of died also without medical help a many of times. Yes, the parents are responsible when the child cannot make his own decisions.
I feel this is a poor excuse to use our God's name in vain. When he really is our miracle worker.
Mom of a survivor!

Why is it ok to kill your childern in the womb yet we are not allowed to allow a child to die of natural causes. I HATE when those who do not yet have revelation of Christ JUDGE someone who does. I personally choose antobiotics when my children are sick. That does not give me the right to judge someone else who hasn't chosen the worldly conventional methods. Abortion IS murder of a BABY! If you chose life for that same baby and that child gets sick, why would it not be ok to allow nature to take its course. TIRED OF YOU JUDGERS!!!!

I do not feel that parents have the right to refuse medical treatment for their children because their children look to them to make sure they are healthy and happy. If there is medical treatments that will help them get better and live a normal healthy life then the government should step in and take care of the children.